Tuesday, June 24, 2008

One Woman's Opinion: The Midwest Sucks.


I have been living in American Midwest, Michigan specifically, for roughly a month. I must admit that I have never been a big supporter of the Midwest. Why is it so flat? Why is it so conservative? Why do Indiana and Ohio exist? However, since I voluntarily decided to spend 3 months in Michigan, I decided to fly to the fly-over states with a moderately open-mind.

Despite good intentions, I have found that yes, it’s true, the Midwest does really suck. I may not be the most bipartisan opinion considering I am currently bitter and bored: I desperately miss my New England heady hamlet and am currently living the life of a single alcoholic 60 year old (watching 3 hours of Law & Order on basic cable guzzling a big bottle of wine).

My observations of the Midwest are not of an up and coming indie city like Kansas City or Detroit. These observations, in anthropology called “field notes,” are based upon my assessment of the very worst of this, my Midwestern town. I should mention that there is some indie and heady cred in this college town, but I’m in a bad mood, so I won’t be focusing upon that. Note: these assessments are not based upon scientific data and may be exaggerated.

  1. Jesus has risen, apparently in the Midwest. People here love Jesus. A lot. Driving around with my dad, I was blinded by Christ’s light, finding that 1 in every 10 cars had God as their co-pilot. “God Saves” and “God is Love” adorned lots of midsize sedans. A sticker of kids praying at a cross decorated the back of a pickup truck. What happened to Calvin peeing on a ford sign? Driving across the state, I saw a billboard stating “90 percent of women regret their abortions.” I’d pay my last $20 to see where they got their "research," but it was sponsored by a church, so it must be true. I have driven a lot around this country and I have never seen so many Jesus car stickers as I have in the Midwest. Barak Obama said that people in this country cling to guns and religion because they do.
  2. Everyone is overweight and tragically unfashionable. Every time I leave my house, I feel like I am at the mall, which is really nightmarish. Girls love Aeropostale, Pac Sun, and hair-straighteners. Dudes love looking like bros. My father is a known weightist (a made-up word for the dislike of heifers) and while he says, “Jesus! Look at that person! She can barely get out of her car!” I try to defend the 300 lb woman, stating she probably doesn’t have the education of or luxury to good food and exercise. But, I am really smirking and agreeing with my “make sure you get a run in” father.
  3. The Midwest has the reputation for being friendly. I don’t know how that came to be because everyone here is an asshole. I had some tacky girl (see no. 2) at a coffee shop give me major attitude about grinding some whole beans for me. For some reason, the pissed-off, I hate you/me barista attitude is more acceptable if it comes from a good looking, well-dressed, or barista/screen-printer and not from some 17-year-old who loves sparkly shirts and Rhiannon’s new single .
  4. The accent is unbearable; think Eliza Doolittle (thank you, Emily) meets the cartoon matriarch of Bobby’s World. The Midwest accent is thought of as honest and earnest, but I think it makes people sound stupid, country, and uncultured. But maybe you just hate what you are: there is proof (on video!) that at age 5, I had a god-awful Midwestern accent: “Asked” was “aaased.” Luckily I moved to New York shortly after and I lost the Midwest accent without gaining a Long Island accent. However, occasionally, I will still call my father “Ded” not “Daaad.” And to be fair, I hate almost all accents unless they are derived from Europe. Southern? Long Island? Cringe.

What I hate most about the Midwest is what I hate most about the U.S.; Americans are fat, tacky Jesus freaks. My wish for the Midwest is that the whole region would flood. Just kidding! A wise woman once said that the Midwest gets its pokey, uncool reputation because it is pokey and uncool. Any rising scenes from the Midwest should stop lamenting the superiority of the Northeast and Brooklyn and celebrate the fact that they were at all able to become “hip” while being surrounded by fatties and bible-thumpers. It’s quite an accomplishment, Bon Iver!

38 comments:

happycountrygirl said...

Wow. You are really disturbed. I feel sorry for you, as you clearly live in a black expanse devoid of happiness and joy. Good luck to you.

20somethinggirl said...

I agree with all of your statements about the midwest. I have been here for a fewmonths and I DETEST it. There is no culture. It is ugly as sin. It is boring as hell. God I HATE it here. I cannot wait to move back to the East Coast.

MiamiChick said...

100% true. I've been living in Michigan for a year and I made the same observations. I thought I was just being narrow-minded until I spoke with other non-Michiganders living here.

I have to add to that list the word PURITANICAL. Midwesterners are afraid to live outloud, to be bold, to stir the pot, or to stand-out in any way. There is no definitive culture other than "being nice" or "living to hunt" and no passion for fresh food or good music. The accent just about drives me insane.

Also, young adults don't seem very ambitious and seem to be content with living their whole lives in the same town. There's no curiosity for the world outside.

This place is a cultural blackhole. Can't wait to go back to Florida.

wisconsin sucks said...

Feeling morose here in Madison Wi, I googled "the midwest sucks" and found this refuge of shared opinion. I am from the west coast and moved to this siberian shit hole for professional reasons. What is wrong with these people? Everyone is so intrusive and has absolutely no sense of humor. And the food is horrible, greasy and everything covered in cheese. Has no one heard of fruits and vegetables? This is supposed to be prime farm country what the hell do they grow out here? And the women are so scary with their over processed hair (sorry but over frosted hair went out with spandex) and gobs of eye makeup, and why does anyone need that much fragrance? AHHHHHHH! I hate this place!

Tonia said...

yes! as a jersey girl who's lived in brooklyn for years, but has had to suffer through multiple trips to the midwest thanks to my wonderful boyfriend's family being there (he escaped, he's okay), i completely agree. the midwest is a cultural and culinary wasteland (with the exception of chicago of course). where else can someone live less than a mile from local farms and still buy their groceries at walmart? the food is crap, they put sugar and/or ketchup in everything, and the people are NOT NICE. They're cold, closed-minded and judgemental, and afraid of anything that's different from their bland, boring lives.

Gabrielle said...

OMG! This is hilarious! I'm a California girl stuck in D.C., and, oddly enough, you've got this crap-hole pegged as well! Well written!

Displaced in STL said...

I also live in the midwest and feel the need to say... YOU ARE OH SO RIGHT! I live near the downtrodden and trailer park ridden St. Louis. I hope to move as soon as circumstances allow. I have seen dirty toilets that were more inviting then the midwest!

mary said...

I would agree in part; the midwest largely sucks. I have lived in northern Ohio for most of my life. I lived in Seattle for four years and some nights I awake in a cold sweat wondering why I moved back. I agree everyone is fat and just as fashionably challenged. I could better tolerate the flat land if the housing wasn't ugly as hell. And forget buying a barcelona chair anywhere; there are no good furniture stores outside of Chicago, Cincy and Pittsburgh. And there is a reason so much bible thumping goes on: I believe that a lot of "God's children" pray as a coping mechanism after they realize how culturally and economically shortchanged they are.

Now I say the midwest sucks in part because it does enjoy a few good qualities. The real estate is cheap. A house going for $300,000 right in Seattle would bring about $70,000 in Ohio (and that is on a good day). Bar drinks are also cheap, and I mean cheap. I can get a good Tom Collins AND Long Island ice tea both for about $6. I couldn't get either of those drinks for under $10 anywhere in Manhattan. Of course, all anyone does in the midwest when they are not eating themselves to death is soaking their miserable lives in alcohol. And, aside from the occasional tornado, the midwest does not suffer from earthquakes, hurricanes, mudslides, or raging fires.

Some people may consider the aforementioned a small price to pay in exchange for a better part of the country, but that's what weekend getaways and frequent flyer miles are for.

chris winters said...

Whatever. I left Michigan 11 years ago and lived in LA, San Fran, and Vancouver and guess what, I couldn't wait to get back. All you spout is cliches. After 11 years of experiencing the perpetual self absorbed condescending adolescents of Cali I longed for the "real" people from back home. Cali has got to be one of the worst run states, bad roads, dysfunctional schools and insane taxes, and its filled with the most self centered and superficially ego driven nut cases on the planet. Talk about hubris. I don't know where you are hanging out in Michigan but at least the people are concerned with real life, are humble and nice when you are looking down on them, and can actual talk in depth about a range of topics and not just spout what they heard last night on the daily show. They also have goals beyond driving a BMW 5 series while feeling good about it because they just installed a water saver faucet in their 3rd guest bedroom. And for the record none of my friends and family are Jesus freaks, I dont know where you are seeing that in Michigan, although they do drive more American cars here. And how about actually having quality public schools where the kids learn without paying 15k a year from kindergarten on so the white kids dont have to mingle with the "brown and black" kids while the parents pretend to love diversity, let alone being able to have a nice safe 3000sq foot house with a yard for under 200k. Not to mention the incredible seasons and breathtaking lakes and forests. Sounds to me like you took your preconceived coastal unfounded attitudes and simply are seeing what you choose to see. Its ok, go back and lead your ego driven, superficial life on the coast where you feel you belong. And oh yeah, to the person that ended her post with being proud of living in FLORIDA?? are you kidding?

chatterhead said...

Thanks, Chris. Finally. Talk about closed mindedness--this kook's "revolution" is clearly with herself. Life is what one makes of it. Why doesn't she embrace our lifestyle like she wants us to embrace hers? Such a baby! Grow up, Revo Girl! You are guaranteeing yourself more bad experiences. As long as you sneer and lash out at people, no matter where you go, people are going to sneer and lash out at you. I'll bet the Midwesterners you've encountered had some shocking things to say about the type of people (you) that your area produces, too! While you're out there exercising your vile opinions, try equally exercising genuine kindness and see if your experiences with us change! Good luck.

G Michael Leonard said...

You hit the hammer straight on the nail. I grew up in NW Indiana. Left in the early 80's for a few years, went in the military and saw that the world was not a flat earth. I went back there for a while when I got out and was open minded. However the people that I knew did not become older and wiser- the world of a Midwestern is that of a 25 mile radius of a flat earth that is centered around themselves. They like to proudly proclaim that when they drive out of town that they are "out of town." After spending two years in the artic shithole, I couldn't stand it anymore. Moved south. Never again. These people were born stupid and raised stupid.

Chain Chomp said...
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Chain Chomp said...

I bet you sat and enjoyed the smell your own farts as you wrote this stupid shit.
The west and east coast really need to disappear up their own asses.
Florida too.

Sincerely With Love, Ohio.

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anonymous said...

I moved up north to New England for a few years and became extremely depressed. People seemed retarded, out of date, had naive 1960s style mentalities. I began to dislike the Democrats, though formerly I had only hated Republicans. Then, amazingly, there are many Obese people in New England, so fat they need electric wheel chairs. Then you have street preachers. They are extremely agressive and insulting. They say things like "your are not a real man" and yell in your face. Meanwhile, the locals claim that they are not very religious and make a thing of it, though I swear the place is crawling with weird cults.

anonymous said...

What is even weirder about New England, is a feeling like you have come into their secret area and they dont want you to see the real truth that they are not that great!

Lenore said...


I want to first start out by saying I consider myself to be very open-minded and I lived over all over this beautiful country. I am proud to say I have lived in every part of this country except the Northwest. Out of the 5 different states I have lived in I would happily move back to any of them except the 1 Midwestern state. The Missouri chapter was the longest 6 years of my life. Just after 2 weeks I had made a huge mistake. I cannot vouch for any other Midwestern states but was absolutely true for Missouri. I thought I was being mean or narrow minded by thinking the same items that you listed but I’m happy that I am not the only person that thought this.
As I would drive down I-70 to work I would lose count of the amount of Jesus, abortion, firework and adult toy store billboards that were plastered all over the place. But I would think “at least it was something to look at” since my other option was the vast plains of fields, cows, and abandon trailers that lined the highway. I always thought it was odd that the “nice friendly Midwesterner “ would always make it a point to start discussing how it’s so much better to grow up in the Midwest and they don’t know how I was to survive growing up in NYC. Then I would remind them that none of my friends dropped out of high school, did drugs, or got pregnant. That would usually stop the conversation. The biggest mystery
I am still trying ponder. Is why would someone who is “Christian” (and I knew this because they told me all the time) would talk badly about another “Christian” just because they were Baptist and their neighbor was Methodist or so on. It would remind me of rival high schools from some bad after school movie. From my understanding we all believe in the same God and I don’t remember reading in the bible or learning at my evil Catholic school that God thought one church was better than another church

Eric Shelton said...

I have to say I agree wholeheartedly. I found this page after searching for "the midwest sucks", simply because I feel so alone and isolated in the culture and was hoping to find someone to either commiserate with or change my mind.

I grew up in Tucson, and always thought that was kind of a small town! After all, Phoenix was just 90 minutes up the road. But after moving to Fargo, ND in July of 2012 for work (I volunteered to get on my manager's good side, because nobody else in the company wants to go there), I'm finally learning what a real podunk is. And the hilarious part is all the small towns around here fighting with each other, as West Fargo has property and tax battles with Fargo, Dilworth is considered a separate town, etc. They're all so petty, small-minded, and insular.

My high school had a greater population than a lot of these little towns. I lived in England for three years, the Seychelles for a few months, I've spent a few days in Dubai, and moved from Tucson to Las Vegas. I've been to beautiful Washington, D.C. and vacationed in sunny California and any given opportunity. I've hiked the trails of Oregon's Silver Falls State Park and been to Mardi Gras in New Orleans.

Then there's your average Fargoan, "I've lived here all my life and can't ever imagine leaving!" They say it with such joy. Such pride.

How can someone with such an insular and limited view of the world make reasonable statements about anything? What do they really know? What have they really seen or experienced? I enjoy my time in Afghanistan more than I do Fargo. At least there are mountains here, and an interesting culture. And better food.

It's not the fat people that bug me here, though they do make me mindful to watch my own weight. It's the stupidity, ignorance, and shoddy work. They tout themselves proudly as a "college town", despite most of the educational opportunities being limited to trade-schools and agriculture. Look, I appreciate that blue collar workers and farmers support the rest of the nation, I really do. It's the sheer ignorance of the outside world that baffles me.

Poorly planned roads. Shoddily built houses. Houses built "because we've always done it this way", rather than looking for solutions to environmental factors. Blue laws that restrict business on Sunday, while at the same time saying Sharia Law is awful- because religion intruding on the lives of others is okay when it's your religion. The list goes on and on.

It's called flyover country for a reason.

New Yorker said...

Thanks so much for posting this entry... I couldn't agree more.

I'm an educated and progressive mid-20 something from New York City who spent my first year (of four) of medical training in Chicago, IL, before returning to NYC. When I decided to move to Chicago, I thought I needed to 'get away' from the hustle and bustle of the East Coast; I thought Chicago would be "90% NYC at 50% the price." I found Chicago to be one of the most close-minded, conservative, homophobic, crime-ridden, and segregated cities that typified the overwhelming denial and repression that pervades life in the Midwest. Dearth of culture, creativity, excitement.

Even a city like Chicago is filled with tacky, unfashionable, bible-thumping Jesus freaks. I would walk to work and often encounter such freaks preaching on Michigan Avenue. Classless.

My year in Chicago was among the slowest, darkest, dreariest, and coldest of my life (weather-wise and life-wise). I dreamed of the day I would return to New York. When it finally came, and I flew on a one-way from O'Hare to LaGuardia, I vowed never to look back.

REMEMBER - it's called FLYOVER COUNTRY for a reason.

REMEMBER - it's cheap for a reason. I live in a cramped studio paying double the price for an apartment half the size than my palace in Chicago... and I don't mind at all.

I learned my lesson. Never again.

Ginger Bachman said...

Fuck the midwest, fuck chatterhead and chris winters, and fuck everyone that likes the midwest.

Leah Cotham said...

Even though I've grown up in Michigan, I have been here at my parents to recover from a massive stroke. I had been living in NYC. After that, I can't stand the midwest now. I was much happier among more liberal,educated,healthy(ie thin)and interesting people! It's basically the opposite in the midwest. I feel like my soul will die if I have to stay here,because I hate it. However, my Mother likes to say "bloom where your planted." No thanks,because I already planted myself in a place that is FAR better!

KS said...

I am so glad to see this. I too Googled "the Midwest sucks" to see if anyone else felt the way I did, and it's such a breath of fresh air reading this post and these comments. I'm stuck in Michigan right now wishing every day I could get the fuck out of here. The people go WELL out of their way to be complete assholes to total strangers, the food is god awful bland slop, most people have zero personality or individuality whatsoever, there's scary fundamentalism all over the place, and oh my god the white trash trailer park people!!! What freaks me out the most is the racism around here, holy SHIT they are insane! Now obviously Detroit isn't as bad, but there are vast, vast swaths of Michigan where it's just an endless sea of white people (most of them white trash or hicks) and if you do see one random black guy, he looks downright nervous to even be in public. I've been up here for three months straight and not seen one single minority - and when I saw ONE lonely black guy hanging out, minding his own business for a few minutes (as if waiting for someone to pick him up or something) outside a store? FIVE MINUTES LATER, cops had pulled up and were harassing the fuck out of him. I think he literally got arrested or ticketed for being black and just standing there. This place is INSANE. Oh, by the way, speaking of cops - corruption is rampant here. Ever seen Super Troopers? Yeah, in Michigan, that's NOT FICTION. I was up here in what they call the "off season" (when tourists aren't around, so anytime other than Summer or Spring), sitting by a lake enjoying the view with my boyfriend, and no less than SIX cop cars drove up to harass me because I was from out of town and had Texas plates. The sheriff even pulled up and had his butt-ugly wife sitting in the passenger seat (at least I hope to god that was his wife!) with her freakin' Sunday dress on. I had to leave, basically driven off because I was from out of town! WOW. I have had people actively try to start fights with me over the dumbest stuff up here, including one chick who tried to get me to pull over and get into some kind of road rage fight when /she/ was the one who zoomed around /me/ (flipping me off and screaming the entire way, of course). Someone mentioned that nobody has ambition -- it's absolutely true. It seems like most folks basically just sell drugs or try to cheat someone out of money or something, because nobody has jobs around here. NOBODY. Oh by the way, this was a weird one-- NOBODY OWNS A FUCKING CAR. People are constantly having to bum rides off their friends, walk, or take the bus, and weirdly enough, a lot of them just straight up never bother to learn to drive. But wait, there's more! -- the schools are an absolute joke. I've heard horror stories from friends and my ex about gifted kids being tossed into special ed and ignored, teachers smoking pot every day out back, etc. etc. etc. I could go on and on and on about the awful shit I've had to deal with living up here. I lived in Ohio for a while and traveled through other parts of the Midwest...none of 'em are much better, my god. This whole swath of the US needs to just freakin' rot.

This place is a crusty, shitstained mole on Satan's flaming anus. If you think you might end up here, RUN AWAY. Do NOT come to the Midwest, it's a trap and the economy is so terrible you may end up jobless, just stay away for your own sanity's sake!

Even bumfuck towns in Texas I've been to were better than this backwater Hell!!!!!

Leah Cotham said...

As a displaced New Yorker recovering in Michigan, I feel like I've died and gone to some sort of Hell. I actually grew up in Michigan, but after living in NYC this place is truly full of all the unglamorous unfashionable church goers.. There is no culture, and a lot of fat people. Of which lack any knowledge of good food, art, or fashion.

Ohiofornian said...

Out of all parts of this nation I would say bluntly that the Midwest espically Ohio is the biggest bag of s### in this nation ! Most people are fat loves hunting fishing drinking smoking tattooing whoreing boozing ! Ohio is still has the mindset of a 19 th century rural state despite the coming of the 21st century .Most women hate men weigh about 30 pounds overweight smoke drink get pregnant by 22 in or a lot out of wedlock cuss yell pretend to be a lesbian and are very misinformed about whats going on in this nation ! There is a reason this region is losing population fast because of the lack of jobs in the rust belt and the lack of culture everywhere else ! I will say this If you take care of yourself have a good head on your sholders keep a spiritual faith that's not Christian have a job or a good job dress nice stay clean have no criminal record can cook know how to treat a woman have good taste of music entertainment and all come from a good family don't have a tattoo ,Guess what ? You will be single forever because most men and women in the Midwest dress like 20 yrs behind and they belive pajamas camo make good fashion in public ! Women hate men and if you are a non Christian they will tell you you are going to hell and they have no knowledge on current affairs, Heres something else the major city schools in Ohio at least are churning out high school dropouts at an alarming rate Higher than the nation avg The Midwest really has a stupidity problem and if you raise kids in most places here minus Minneapolis St paul it will trickle down to you children . .Ohio has two of the worse cities for interracial couples Cleveland Cincinatti which were also among most segerated Cleveland Cincinatti were 4 and 5 last yr and all of Ohios major cities were on at least once since 07 Mostly because they are old dying factory towns and Clevelands sports team havent won a title of any kind since 64 !Forbes most miserable list .If you are not a Christian you are told youre going to hell ! LA SF kick the midwests a## and owns it ! There in west LA and SF you don't see the disease of cultural inferiority that is all over the Midwest but espically Ohio ! I have been to 25 of 50 states and I would say by far Ohio and Nebraska are the biggest bags of s### in the nation ! Chris Winters im telling your precious Midwest to Take That !If anybody want to chat e mail me at john_dooley1719@yahoo.com and title the e mail Midwest Sucks !

Ohiofornian said...

And last the reason this part of the nation is cheap because you get everything I mentioned in my first post and its a punishment to live there its winter like 7 of 12 months of the year spring is cold and cloudy and summer is short and hot and by September its 30s and chilly !

Ohiofornian said...

Chris Winters Most Midwesterners aren't fake ,What you see is what you get ! And I described it to perfection ,I didn't miss a thing !

Mother Bear said...

Every bit true...period. The barista thing...dead on. No customer service of any kind. In Northern Ohio, most miserable hateful people I have ever encountered. Most bored too. Eating is their life...and guzzling booze all night which most are very unable to handle. The Bible thumpers are here too but not as prevalent as in the south. Most boring, flat, place. Scenery is awful. Saving my money to go back home any day.

Joseph Pajerek said...

My fiance wanted us to move from Phoenix to St Louis or Dallas, while I want to move to LA or the Bay Area. I don't see any appeal to the midwest or the south at all. But then again, she grew up in St Louis, whereas I grew up on the east coast, but I hate cold and snow.

Matthew Johnson said...

Wow... I get it, you're all blowing off steam. You need to as you feel that the location you have come to live in doesn't meet your expectations. I'm sad that you were not able to enjoy any aspect of the Midwest and that you feel that you live in a nightmare. It's important to note that you get out what you put in... If you want to discuss art and be surrounded by culture, you need to discuss art with people and surround yourself in culture. I currently live in Kansas City after moving from St. Louis, and I've learned a few things about cities that clearly people on this blogpost seem to misunderstand. Just because there are fat, "unfashionable" (whatever the fuck that means. Anyone heard of subjectivity?) and bible thumpers in the community you live does not necessarily mean that everyone in that community is a fat unfashionable bible thumper. If you value art, find the art. I've had people tell me that St. Louis doesn't have an art scene... Then you haven't been paying attention cause it's there... Between nationally recognized institutions like the Contemporary Art Museum, the Pulitzer foundation of the arts, and the St. Louis art museum, there are many other gallery spaces that show great internationally recognized artists like the White flag project and Bruno David galleries plus a ton of local galleries that show local and nationally recognized artists. It's also ignorant to claim that all food in the Midwest is bland, fatty and cheese covered. You can not convince me that there isn't fatty food on the east or west coast (in and out anyone?) there is good food here in the Midwest but be prepared to look for it... No we are not New York and don't have 50 restaurants in a one block radius so picking a good restaurant is maybe a bit more specific, but that doesn't mean there aren't farm to table places that boast incredibly fresh and tastey food that doesn't rely on cheese or grease. The Midwest is different, for sure, but claiming it's worse is an oversimplification and doesn't allow you to really get to know a place. I can't speak to the small towns but the cities aren't all backwater shitholes. Stop acting like yo shit don't stank. try to enjoy life whether you live in beautiful Maine or serene Missouri (beauty and serenity not included, you are responsible for bringing that yourself)

John Beamish said...

Coming from someone from the South-

The Midwest: It's like the South, with just as much racism but with ruder people.

I came from Tallahassee, FL to visit my gf's family in Southeastern Michigan with an open mind, having heard the Midwest gets a bad rap from the coastal elite, but that the people are some of the friendliest you'll ever meet. Bullshit!



Fuck this place! The "midwestern friendliness" lie, actually thinking oversized portions of American food you could get anywhere else in the country counts as culinary excellence, the ignorance of the outside world the average person here has... fuck it all!

I feel sorry that all the industrial jobs left, but I'm sorry, the result is disasterous! People still think you can get a good job out of high school at the local steel mill or auto plant and be set for life. Nobody knows anyone that went to college and it's not on the minds of anyone. The sole goal in life of most 16+ girls here is to get knocked up and then married to the first guy that looks at them.

I applaud the decision to join the military that the young men with any sense make, since their parents probably didn't tell them about college. Better to go off and see the rest of the country and world than sirens the rest of your life working at walmart.

The midwest either needs to depopulate or somehow get back the millions of low skilled labor jobs they lost.

John Beamish said...

Coming from someone from the South-

The Midwest: It's like the South, with just as much racism but with ruder people.

I came from Tallahassee, FL to visit my gf's family in Southeastern Michigan with an open mind, having heard the Midwest gets a bad rap from the coastal elite, but that the people are some of the friendliest you'll ever meet. Bullshit!



Fuck this place! The "midwestern friendliness" lie, actually thinking oversized portions of American food you could get anywhere else in the country counts as culinary excellence, the ignorance of the outside world the average person here has... fuck it all!

I feel sorry that all the industrial jobs left, but I'm sorry, the result is disasterous! People still think you can get a good job out of high school at the local steel mill or auto plant and be set for life. Nobody knows anyone that went to college and it's not on the minds of anyone. The sole goal in life of most 16+ girls here is to get knocked up and then married to the first guy that looks at them.

I applaud the decision to join the military that the young men with any sense make, since their parents probably didn't tell them about college. Better to go off and see the rest of the country and world than sirens the rest of your life working at walmart.

The midwest either needs to depopulate or somehow get back the millions of low skilled labor jobs they lost.

OrrvilleOSUfan said...

Chris Winters We all do respect but people in the Midwest don't have to pay 15 k to keep their kids away from black and browns they just move to places like Wadsworth Ohio Grove City Ohio or the Milwaukee suburbs .There is a list of most segerated cities in America and most of them are Midwestern Rust Belt cities . There is a list of worse cities for interracial couples and it is a cut copy and paste of Midwestern Rust Belt cities and a few southern metros .Maybe people in Cali want to get farther than those flag waving Trump loving fast food munching gun shooting camo wearing marriage by 20 6th grade education dead end job working coast hating pjs in public 80s clothes wearing scooter riding philocentric right wing religious nuts that are 60 to 70 pct of the population of the Rust Belt. Ive been to much of the nation and the only cities in the Midwest I would even consider cool are Minneapolis and Chicago .The rest of the Midwest is boring dull and plain but what stands out is that Ohio and Nebraska are the two biggest bags of shit out of all the Midwestern states ! People aren't fake in the Midwest they are what I said they are ! I agree with the earlier post ,Race Relations in the Rust belt for the most part are not much different than the south and in some cases worse . There are more races mixing in the South than in the Rust belt .

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Thank you thank you thank you, Author, for the affirmations this evening. I also Googled "Midwest sucks" out of sheer desperation & loneliness here in KCMO and am grateful that like-minded people exist! There are some wonderful aspects to the Midwest... open prairie, sooooo much potential, elbow-room, varied topography, beautiful architecture and housing affordability.. But in all honesty, those positives come at too Huge a price for me to pay :( I've been in KCMO for 2 years and am leaving this Friday...after feeling like I'm literally going insane. I am a lesser, more depressed angry horrible insensitive person for being here in Kansas City these past two years- it's not 'indie progressive'; KC culture is everything you mentioned about the Midwest in general: destitute, sad, angry, broken, narcissistic. A car culture with taste-driven cuisine versus anything healthy (it's the Portland food scene 20 years ago...all fat and flavor. There's some amazing cuisine here but with rampant obesity as a result.) It's a very unfriendly culture. KCMOers defend the Midwest because they've never been anywhere else. They're too busy pumping out babies and following a prescribed blueprint. This is the saddest place I've ever experienced (after living all over the country and abroad in several countries.) I didn't know that places like this could still exist in the US in 2016. Like Hemingway said about this KC area- "It's shaped who I am but in no way inspired me." I am grateful for my time here and have no regrets, but will never return. It's too sad a place. Thank you for sharing!

Trapped said...

I moved from Buffalo, NY to Nebraska 17 years ago, and I was prompty kind if stuck here and it's been mostly hellish. I love the peacefulness of the wide open spaces, and the singular sort of utterly uncluttered focus which that allows. That's what I've really come to appreciate here, but what I find socially is a cohesion that people relish, and which they achieve by only ever doing what is prescribed. There is a premium on "appropriatenes" at the expense if life force, spirit, expression, growth, experimentation and innovation, and people here are incredulous that anything about the way they choose of live is anything less than superior. It's all about the group, which has a certain beauty to it in a way, but the way it's done puts a choke hold on any kind if social or individual clarity. It's just a big fantastical bubble. Of course, Buffalo has very Midwestern sensibilities, but I actually think it's more a hybrid of east and Midwest that people realize. When Buffalo is cool, it's very cool, in a very non-Midwestern way. Believe. So, I try to appreciate what people have out here, but mostly I think they are unoriginal closed minded idiots and they keep our country behind in terms of dealing with any of our problems effectively, read scientifically. I love this notion that The 98% of scientists who assure us that global warming is accelerating today in real time are just flakey tree-huggers, but the scientists who cure our (lifestyle inflicted) cancers and provide the technologies we can't live without are OK. The ignorance here is criminal. I suspect that my coming to appreciate aspects of life here is possibly some form of Munchausen Syndrome.

Brad Hart said...

Have to admit, the Midwest is great for space and outdoor activities, but people are backwards and fat. The middle age women are 90% overweight and ugly

Holly Holman said...

So glad to see this! I've been in Kansas City for a year now and hate it just a little less than I did at first. I can't believe you described it as "indie". Austin is Indie. Kansas City is just as ugly, devoid of culture, and immensely boring as the rest of the Midwest. All people talk about here is BBQ, beer, and the Royals. Funny enough, I grew up in the South so I'm used to holy rollers. Just smile and nod. People here have the worst attitudes and the nerve to have chips on their shoulders. It's so odd to me. But there's NOTHING interesting happening here. Down South you can hike the Appalaichains, drive to the beach, chefs from all over the world have chosen to build restaurants in big cities like Atlanta, Nashville, and Charlotte. West Texas has an AMAZING natural landscape and a really funky art scene that has captured international appeal. New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah are always fun romantic getaway options and the people in the South are genuinely nice. I thought it would be fun to experience life somewhere else, but lesson learned. I love my job, but I in my 30s I'm truly realizing what's important to me and only loving my job isn't cutting it in this terrible city.

Holly Holman said...

So glad to see this! I've been in Kansas City for a year now and hate it just a little less than I did at first. I can't believe you described it as "indie". Austin is Indie. Kansas City is just as ugly, devoid of culture, and immensely boring as the rest of the Midwest. All people talk about here is BBQ, beer, and the Royals. Funny enough, I grew up in the South so I'm used to holy rollers. Just smile and nod. People here have the worst attitudes and the nerve to have chips on their shoulders. It's so odd to me. But there's NOTHING interesting happening here. Down South you can hike the Appalaichains, drive to the beach, chefs from all over the world have chosen to build restaurants in big cities like Atlanta, Nashville, and Charlotte. West Texas has an AMAZING natural landscape and a really funky art scene that has captured international appeal. New Orleans, Charleston, and Savannah are always fun romantic getaway options and the people in the South are genuinely nice. I thought it would be fun to experience life somewhere else, but lesson learned. I love my job, but I in my 30s I'm truly realizing what's important to me and only loving my job isn't cutting it in this terrible city.